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Democratic Party leaders (or political figures in general) risk alienating constituents and fostering radicalization if they only offer 'empathy' (listening, understanding pain) without progressing to 'sympathy' (taking advice, adopting positions, or initiating concrete actions to alleviate suffering).
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"but she didn't go to the next step"
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"she didn't take any advice from the students"
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"find one thing that they did that she would adopt in her own position"
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"she didn't do any acts of empathy she did but acts of sympathy she did not"
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"… anything that we say and you didn't do anything about the suffering of the Palestinians and they became started becoming radicalized"
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"empathy to her empathy is not enough"
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The Democratic Party (or political actors employing similar strategies) often fails to move beyond mere empathy or listening to concrete acts of sympathy or policy adoption, leading to a perception of inaction and unresponsiveness among constituents.
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"she didn't go to the next step sympathy"
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"she didn't take any advice from the students the prop Palestinian students she didn't take find one thing that they did that she would adopt in her own position"
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"she didn't do any acts of empathy she did but acts of sympathy she did not"
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"you say you listen to us but you didn't hear us at one at all and they meant you didn't adapt any anything that we say and you didn't do anything about the suffering of the Palestinians"
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"empathy understanding the Viewpoint of the other person and feeling the pain of the persons not enough you got to move through that process to sympathy"
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A critical flaw in leadership, exemplified by the university president's actions and applicable to Democratic Party performance, is the failure to translate 'empathy' into concrete 'sympathy' by adopting advice, incorporating demands, or offering tangible support to aggrieved groups, which can lead to radicalization of the base.
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"but she didn't go to the next step"
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"she didn't take any advice from the students the prop Palestinian students she didn't take"
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"find one thing that they did that she would adopt in her own position she"
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"furthermore she didn't have the sympathy for the Palestinians that they were you know uh maybe uh for whatever reason they were suffering she could have started a relief fund to help U children or have the columia medical center stand by On the Border to treat people uh she didn't do any acts of empathy she did but acts of sympathy she did not"
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"you say you listen to us but you didn't hear us at one at all and they meant you didn't adapt any anything that we say and you didn't do anything about the suffering of the Palestinians"
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The Democratic Party, or political actors generally, may fail to effectively address complex, emotionally charged issues by stopping at mere 'empathy' without moving to 'sympathy' and concrete action, leading to dissatisfaction among constituents.
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"she didn't go to the next step sympathy"
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"she didn't take any advice from the students"
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"she didn't have the sympathy for the Palestinians that they were you know uh maybe uh for whatever reason they were suffering she could have started a relief fund to help U children or have the columia medical center stand by On the Border to treat people uh she didn't do any acts of empathy she did but acts of sympathy she did not"
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"empathy to her empathy is not enough empathy understanding the Viewpoint of the other person and feeling the pain of the persons not enough you got to move through that process to sympathy"
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Effective political leadership requires a balanced approach that moves beyond initial empathy and sympathy to include objective analysis and skepticism, as failing to do so can alienate broader public support and lead to negative outcomes for the leader or party.
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"after after that she could be objective and even skeptical but she didn't"
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"you got to move through that process to sympathy and two types of sympathy which is uh sort of one type of pity of compassion and also fting where you agree with somebody then you move to objectivity you don't leave out that you got to objectively count that you know the Palestinian attacked Israel uh and that the Israelis are suffering too and also skepticism about claiming the Hamas"
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"people were turned off by uh the radicalness of the radicalization"
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"sympathetic empathetic objectivity is the ethos that you bring to a journey through New York City religions and how you do your reporting there"
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New York City's intellectual and political leaders, implicitly associated with the Democratic Party given the city's political landscape, initially ignored or dismissed the growing religious presence and preferred a strictly secular approach to public life and policy.
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"by but I couldn't seem to get attention of the uh City intellectual and political leaders"
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"they shouldn't have say on where we go in the future we we shouldn't uh allow them to teach anything and in our schools and preschool should be secular and and after school programs should be secular"
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"all across the board it was a secular uh option that was preferred"
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- 07
Liberal/progressive media outlets (and by extension, implicitly the Democratic Party) have repeatedly misjudged election outcomes and voter sentiment, leading to surprise and shock when their preferred candidates lose or when unexpected shifts occur.
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"the times who had had were totally taken by surprise they had a headline of the opponent winning"
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"it was a catastrophy that is they they were thought they were winning and all of a sudden it was the same thing happened with the Trump's first election they thought that you know Hillary would be uh Queen Hill Hillary and would win and they were really shocked"
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"even saw some similar reporting out of the times after this most recent election it's like here's the maps of huge shifts towards Trump and the Bronx like what's going on it's like totally off of people"
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Democratic Mayor Eric Adams is actively employing a strategy of engaging with religious groups and appointed a faith adviser to bolster his re-election efforts, despite his administration facing significant challenges including corruption charges and perceived management issues.
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"he made Reverend Gilford monrose his faith adviser in the city hall"
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"Adams has uh turned out to have you know uh it hasn't been a it's been a rough uh uh administration because there's corruption charges and maybe the Management's not always what it should be"
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"he did a tour his faith tour of the city which were rallies basically for his mayorship notice what the mayor is doing a faith tour of the city so he can get reelected"
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A political strategy that fails to incorporate concrete action and a balanced, objective perspective (beyond just empathy) risks radicalizing segments of the population and alienating broader support.
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"they became started becoming radicalized and they took over a building and she eventually lost her job"
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"what happened is the radicals now have radicalized so much and they once the and this is not a big conflict in America it's it's it involves just a certain slice of students but now that it's um on the road to some sort of settlement that and people were turned off by uh the radicalness of the radicalization"
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"but if you showed the the other parts you would get some listening"
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Effective political strategy for parties like the Democrats, particularly in managing internal dissent and complex issues, requires a nuanced approach of 'sympathetic objectivity' that combines understanding and active compassion with objective analysis and critical skepticism, to prevent alienation and maintain broad appeal.
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"empathy understanding the Viewpoint of the other person and feeling the pain of the persons not enough you got to move through that process to sympathy and two types of sympathy which is uh sort of one type of pity of compassion and also fting where you agree with somebody then you move to objectivity you don't leave out that you got to objectively count that you know the Palestinian attacked Israel uh and that the Israelis are suffering too and also skepticism about claiming the Hamas you know they did it because after 25 years of suffering they could do no you know what is it from 48 more than 25 years 50 whatever 60 years they they couldn't help themselves you have to have skepticism about that but if you showed the the other parts you would get some listening and students"
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"sympathetic empathetic objectivity is the ethos that you bring to a journey through New York City religions and how you do your reporting there"
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"we practice sympathetic objectivity"
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Mayor Michael Bloomberg, characterized as a 'very secular' leader, actively implemented policies to restrict religious groups' access to public spaces, specifically prohibiting them from renting public school facilities for worship meetings.
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"Bloomberg uh uh Bloomberg was very secular and he didn't particularly want the religious groups on the pub square"
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"he kicked him out of the churches from out of the school I mean from from meeting there right as I recall yeah on Christmas Eve and on Hanukkah Eve he declared that that religious groups not just churches but mainly churches but there were synagogues and even some Muslim groups uh could not rent a public space in the public schools or on the off hours to hold religious meetings uh worship meetings and they couldn't use the community rooms which were supposed to be up open"
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Over time, city political leaders, including those associated with the Democratic Party, grudgingly began to acknowledge and accept the presence of religious voices in the public square, though a strong secularist opposition to religious influence in government and public policy persists.
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"grudgingly in the 2000s you know after 2000 they started to say well maybe we need the religious maybe we have to accept the religious voice"
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"The seculars Still Believe many that we're the triumphant and they everybody should just shut up the religious people should just get out of the way and particular we don't want any religion in government or public policy because you know that's going to be the old medievalism"
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A segment of religious leaders (pastors) in New York City, including African-American pastors, showed a surprising shift in support towards Republican candidates (specifically George W. Bush) in the 2004 election.
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"we surveyed pastors about 900 Pastors in New York City before the George W Bush election and I discovered we discovered that the pastors were shifting toward voting George W bush a Republican"
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"I was a little surprised and so was re Bernard who's African-American U from Panama"
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Upon election, DeBlasio implemented policies that allowed religious groups to meet in public schools and community centers during off-hours.
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"he supported them once he got elected he did two things for them one he said as long as I'm mayor you can meet in the public schools and the community centers"
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"one he opened up the public schools and the community centers uh in the off hours they're not teaching classes"
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The 'managerial liberal' and 'progressive' factions within the Democratic Party have a geographically and demographically narrow base of support, particularly evident in the Eric Adams NYC mayoral primary.
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"and and the only people that voted for the uh Kathy Garcia was a manager or liberal like Bloomberg she got Manhattan and uh the spark slope"
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"and the progressive candidate won one housing project in the Lower East Side and that's about it"
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Other (presumably Democratic) candidates challenging Mayor Adams are failing to resonate with faith groups, and specifically, progressive and secular liberal factions within the Democratic Party are criticized for not recognizing the changing 'post-secular' nature of New York City's electorate.
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"the other candidates that come forward so far I don't resonate probably don't resonate with the faith groups very much"
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"some of them the more progressives and some of the secular liberals of them don't even they don't I don't think they really recognize the change City"
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Despite New York City's strong Democratic leanings, significant shifts in voter behavior have occurred, with Asian, Hispanic, and African-American voters showing increased support for Donald Trump, indicating a potential erosion of traditional Democratic support bases in urban areas.
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"Donald Trump he goes and rais funds and he rais more funds more donors in the South Bronx in which is very Hispanic then the Democrats did"
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"the shifts in the vote were significant Asian shifted toward him all over the city Hispanic shifted toward him African-Americans shifted toward him"
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Religious populations in New York City have grown into a substantial electoral force that politicians, including those with secular inclinations, are increasingly compelled to engage with to avoid political detriment, signaling a new 'post-secular' political reality.
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"it seems like from New York perspective that these religious people are now so so large in numbers that they're an electoral force that has to be reckoned with certainly in City politics"
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"even for people who may not you know in their own kind of like uh you know natural inclination be Pro religion feel that it's a they have to do something because otherwise it's going to it's going to hurt them"
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A perceived lack of concrete 'sympathy' and adaptation to the demands of aggrieved groups by political entities (like the Democratic Party) can lead to the radicalization of those groups and a broader public backlash against such radicalization, ultimately undermining political standing.
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"you didn't adapt any anything that we say and you didn't do anything about the suffering of the Palestinians and they became started becoming radicalized and they took over a building and she eventually lost her job"
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"what happened is the radicals now have radicalized so much and they once the and this is not a big conflict in America it's it's it involves just a certain slice of students but now that it's um on the road to some sort of settlement that and people were turned off by uh the radicalness of the radicalization"
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Effective political engagement, particularly on complex and divisive issues, requires a 'sympathetic objectivity' that combines understanding and compassion with concrete action and a balanced, objective assessment of all sides, including uncomfortable truths.
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"you got to move through that process to sympathy and two types of sympathy which is uh sort of one type of pity of compassion and also fting where you agree with somebody then you move to objectivity you don't leave out that you got to objectively count that you know the Palestinian attacked Israel uh and that the Israelis are suffering too and also skepticism about claiming the Hamas you …"
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"the sympathetic empathetic objectivity is the ethos that you bring to a journey through New York City religions and how you do your reporting there"
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The failure of political leadership (e.g., within the Democratic Party) to genuinely engage with and respond to the suffering or demands of its activist or progressive base, particularly on highly charged issues, risks alienating and radicalizing these crucial segments, ultimately undermining the leadership's authority and broader political effectiveness.
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"you say you listen to us but you didn't hear us at one at all and they meant you didn't adapt any anything that we say and you didn't do anything about the suffering of the Palestinians and they became started becoming radicalized and they took over a building and she eventually lost her job"
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"what happened is the radicals now have radicalized so much"
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Effective political engagement, particularly for the Democratic Party navigating diverse and often conflicting interests, requires 'sympathetic objectivity'—a balanced approach that combines compassion and active concern with factual assessment and skepticism towards all narratives, to maintain broad appeal and prevent further polarization.
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"you got to move through that process to sympathy and two types of sympathy which is uh sort of one type of pity of compassion and also fting where you agree with somebody then you move to objectivity you don't leave out that you got to objectively count that you know the Palestinian attacked Israel uh and that the Israelis are suffering too and also skepticism about claiming the Hamas you know they did it because after 25 years of suffering they could do no you …"
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"the sympathetic empathetic objectivity is the ethos that you bring to a journey through New York City religions and how you do your reporting there"
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Eric Adams' successful strategy in the NYC Democratic mayoral primary involved building a broad, multi-ethnic coalition by actively engaging diverse religious and ethnic groups, contrasting with the limited appeal of other candidates.
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"he won his he beat Kathy Garcia and the other candidate in the Hispanic areas he won the Black areas he got um a large vote uh from the Asian American areas U and there was Al oh there was …"
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"and Adams ran with really going out to all the churches and religious groups"
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Specific progressive policies under DeBlasio that contributed to the city's deterioration included a lenient approach to criminal justice, advocating not to jail criminals.
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"you know don't put criminals in jail let them go"
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Democratic (specifically progressive/de Blasio's group) policies alienated religious communities, leading to increased hostility.
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"the Blasio helped which shows you progressives this is not a progressive versus right issue but too many people uh in his group ran to policies that they were opposed by the churches and so they there was also a growth in hostility"
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Bill DeBlasio, a Democratic mayoral candidate, adopted a campaign strategy of championing religious groups' right to use public schools and community centers for meetings.
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"he decided that he would Champion the religious groups meeting the public schools and the community center"
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This strategy was effective in boosting DeBlasio's candidacy, which had previously been 'languishing'.
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"all of a sudden you started to get he his candidacy started to take hold he got out in front"
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Millions of religious groups, particularly in the boroughs, supported DeBlasio due to his pro-religion stance.
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"all of these religious groups that were Rising that um were in the millions they supported him"
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There is a common misconception that DeBlasio, as a 'hard Progressive', was anti-religion, but in fact, he was 'religion positive' and gained significant religious support.
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"it's exactly the opposite of what um the outside observer looks at New York and says though de basio some hard Progressive that took over from the technocratic Centrist Bloomberg and therefore he must have been like very negative towards religion but in fact he was very religion positive and the religious group supported him"
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DeBlasio allowed churches to access city funds for pre-K and after-school programs (for non-religious purposes), which particularly benefited African-American churches.
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"DeBlasio also did one other thing he said in prek uh preschool and after school programs that the city's going to fund because he he wanted to do that that churches can access the funds now they can't teach religion …"
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DeBlasio's policies, while building a network of religious support, were broadly progressive in other areas and led to the deterioration of the city.
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"so he built this network but the problem is of course he was um he was Progressive on everything else and uh and his policy started to deteriorate the city"
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DeBlasio prioritized investment in mental health programs over infrastructure, with a significant amount of funds (e.g., $100-200 million) for programs run by his wife, which allegedly disappeared or were misused for her political campaign.
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"don't invest in infrastructure invest in mental health uh some I think I forgot how much money it was like1 $200 million do he was going to vote for mental health programs and education in the the burls and his wife would run it and that money sorry just disappeared nobody really knows how was spent I think it was tried to build her a campaign to be mayor now"
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DeBlasio's administration supported religious groups in court against secular claims regarding public school usage, contributing to the collapse of those legal cases.
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"… that survey which was uh we did in the Manhattan and the Bronx I was introduced in court uh and at that point you know the cases started to fall apart"
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There is a widespread misperception among the public and potentially political actors regarding the significant and growing religious (especially evangelical Christian) population in New York City.
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"the number of people who are Christian or other religions in New York is very high"
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"New York Times wrote an article about it where they said there were 1.4 million Evangelical Christians in New York City I think if you told people there were 1.4 million evangelicals in New York they'd never believe you"
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"it seems very contrary to people's expectations"
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"a lot of times the the what is happening is so contrary to our expectation we don't see see it at first"
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In the 'postsecular era,' progressives (a key constituency often associated with the Democratic Party) are perceived as 'hurting' and their viewpoints, even if from an 'opponent,' should be approached with empathy and sympathy to understand their grievances and potentially find common ground or solutions.
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"in the postsecular era we go to the the opponent let's say the progressive and see them as hurting"
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"they're bound to be hurting in some ways"
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"see their Viewpoint sometimes their Viewpoint is uh makes sense and then we try to do something about the hurting we try to find something to doing that's good and then we bring to objective and sympathy"
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Democratic leaders risk alienating their base and fostering radicalization if they fail to translate empathy into concrete action and policy adoption on critical issues.
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"… students she didn't take find one thing that they did that she would adopt in her own position"
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"she didn't have the sympathy for the Palestinians … she could have started a relief fund … she didn't do any acts of empathy she did but acts of sympathy she did not"
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"… said you know you say you listen to us but you didn't hear us at one at all and they meant you didn't adapt any anything that we say and you didn't do anything about the suffering of the Palestinians and they became started becoming radicalized and they took over a building and she eventually lost her job"
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There is a nuanced or critical perspective within segments of the Democratic base, where even staunch Democrats may acknowledge internal party flaws or 'fools' that contribute to electoral challenges.
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"his director was a died in the wool if uh it's Democratic and Alive I'll vote for it"
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"and he said well I know a lot of damn fools like you're talking about"
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Effective leadership, particularly for Democrats, requires a nuanced approach that moves beyond mere empathy to active sympathy and then incorporates objectivity and skepticism to address complex issues without alienating diverse stakeholders.
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"empathy understanding the Viewpoint of the other person and feeling the pain of the persons not enough you got to move through that process to sympathy and two types of sympathy … then you move to objectivity you don't leave out that you got to objectively count that you know the Palestinian attacked Israel uh and that the Israelis are suffering too and also skepticism about claiming the Hamas you know they did it because after 25 years of suffering they could do no … you have to have skepticism about that"
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"sympathetic empathetic objectivity is the ethos that you bring"
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Mayor Bill DeBlasio is identified as a 'secular guy,' suggesting a continuation of a secular orientation within the Democratic mayoral leadership in New York City.
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"a secular guy Mayor Bill DeBlasio is running for mayor uh he was the mayor right before uh Eric Adams"
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